Знак подводника

[камамбер]

Уважаемые коллеги. Попался такой знак. Размер всего 4.5 см. К сожалению нигде не могу найти описание этих знаков. Такого размера - это фрачник или нормальный знак? Или это вообще сувенир?

Спасибо. 

[Алексей Дмитриевич]

Нагрудный знак британского подводника завершившего обучение(completion of training).

Вот как оно(обучение) описано на одном из британских форумов:

To become a submariner in the RN you have to pass a number of courses on top of basic training. If you are straight from training you will complete a basic course which lasts around six weeks (when I did it), in which you learn the basics of a submarines workings, nuclear reactors, trim and drain, ballast tanks ( a lot of diagrams, facts and figures).

On successful completion of this course you then take a course specifically for the class of submarine you are joining (for me the old Valiant class) which was a further 4 weeks and this would be similar to the basic submarine course but would concentrate on systems, propulsion and various fits specific to that boat (submarines are known as boats over here). Again once complete and dependent entirely on what you are streamed as you then complete further training such as Sonar operation or Tactical systems for the old Operations branch and engineers go off to learn about the equipment they will be maintaining, stokers go from steam and gas to nuclear (obviously).

Marine engineers, weapons engineers and the secretariat branches can pretty much transfer at anytime, for the Operations boys you really needed to go from basic or transfer over early doors as experience is the key. Sonar operators on boats use a lot of listening equipment as their bread and butter skills, whereas us skimmers ping on active Sonar for the vast majority of the time and with all that sound pouring into the water you don't require a great deal of audio skills

On top of this there is also a period of escape training in the tank in which the guy's learn how to escape at various depths. This training has to be repeated on a regular basis (blocked sinuses or a cold can really screw up your day).

Finally when you join your first boat there is the part three training to be completed. This consists of tasks that need to be completed to ensure you are safe to be a fully competent member of the boat. Everyone from the most junior member upwards needs an intimate knowledge of that particular boats systems as ultimately anyone of them could be in a position to save the rest of the boat by basically knowing which valve to open or close. This phase normally takes about three months and considering all boats do 1 in 2 watches (6 hours on, 6 hours off) you can imagine how tired the part 3's get!!

Finally, after al this, you are awarded your Dolphins in the Captains cabin, which are at the bottom of a glass of rum and it is good form to catch them in your teeth, not swallow them whole!!

 

Изготовитель фирма "TOYE ,KENNING & SPENCER" из Бирмингема.Одна из официальных фирм-изготовителей британских наград ,кокард и знаков ВС.

Теперь о размере.Я видел металлические знаки 3-х размеров(см.фото 3). Полноразмерный знак(см.фото 1 и 2) чуть меньше размера двух медальных лент(32X2=64 мм)-60 мм. Ваш знак видимо-Mess Undress for Senior Sailors and Officers-

фрачник.Самый маленький-sweetheart brosh.

 

История создания:

The Submariners Dolphins were designed by Commander McIntosh RAN (later captain), the submarine project officer in 1965.

The Naval Board accepted the design and production of the dolphins went ahead. On 25 July 1966 the RAN issued Navy Order number 411, which covered who was eligible to wear the submarine badge and how.

In 1968 the officers and crew of HMS TRUMP, the last British submarine in the Royal Navy's Fourth Division based in Sydney, were given Australian submarine dolphins to wear for a year. At the end of that year the sailors were asked to fill out a survey. Ninety nine per cent of the crew liked the design and were in favour of wearing the badge. It was not until 1972, having assessed the value of the Australian submarine badge, that the Royal Navy issued a variation on Captain McIntosh's design.

[Алексей Дмитриевич]

Читал у «аборигенов» о существовании, в настоящее время ,знака размером 38мм-носимого на рабочей форме одежды.

 

В качестве иллюстрации-полноразмерный знак(из моей коллекции):

[камамбер]

Подскажите пожалуйста, этот знак оригинал? Размер примерно 6 см. Меня смущает отсутствие эмали на короне.

[Алексей Дмитриевич]

Хороший знак. Другой производитель.

Что случилось с эмалью можно только гадать.