Награды 1МВ

[Алексей Дмитриевич]

Личное мнение-надпись нормальная, гурт не сточен,, лента от другой награды. Но если сомневаетесь, то брать не стоит-как говорил один очень мудрый человек-«сомнение в пользу сомнений!»

Майор такой был - в архиве проходит капитан George Reuben Treadwell The East Lancasire Regiment.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D5615427

[tanais]

Добрый день, попали в коллекцию вот такие 2 медали на второго лейтенанта.

Надпись на гурте 2 Lieut. D. Gray.

Хотел спросить, у всех ли офицеров на медалях и звездах по WW1 не писалось название подразделения или это касалось только британских полков и не относилось например к RN или ASC и возможно ли по данным нанесенным на гурте данным найти информацию о награжденном?

Спасибо за ответы.

[Петр Сергеевич]

Есть несколько лейтенантов вот здесь:

 

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_fn=d&_ln=gray&_no=&_crp=&_ttl=lieutenant&discoveryCustomSearch=true&_cr1=WO+372&_dt=M&_col=200&_hb=tna

 

Можно с этого начать...

[Петр Сергеевич]

Про флотских точно не знаю, но у армейских, включая ASC, как у Вас - звание, фамилия и инициалы только.

 

У меня есть аналогичная медаль на лейтенанта из индийского резерва, служившего на Цейлоне, - гуртовая надпись такая же...

[Алексей Дмитриевич]

Я посмотрел аукционы- в большинстве случаев гуртовые надписи на офицеров (WM и VM) без указания названия подразделения или службы.

https://www.noonans.co.uk/auctions/archive/lot-archive/results/449487/?keywords=2nd+lieutenant&discipline=&category=&date_on=&date_start=26+March+2009&date_end=25+March+2023&lot_no=

https://www.noonans.co.uk/auctions/archive/lot-archive/results/449241/?keywords=2nd+lieutenant&discipline=&category=&date_on=&date_start=26+March+2009&date_end=25+March+2023&lot_no=

https://www.noonans.co.uk/auctions/archive/lot-archive/results/450052/?keywords=2nd+lieutenant&discipline=&category=&date_on=&date_start=26+March+2009&date_end=25+March+2023&lot_no=

[Алексей Дмитриевич]

Вот тут есть упоминание о Lieutenant D.Gray:

https://books.google.ru/books?id=3XK-BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA182&lpg=PA182&dq=2nd+lieutenant+D.Gray&source=bl&ots=DkMUG9ErvP&sig=ACfU3U1kjuOrQX0a5o_9q1Q6DK-TpVXQVw&hl=ru&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjSoNGu8IH-AhUCt4sKHbmODdI4HhDoAXoECAcQAw#v=onepage&q=2nd%20lieutenant%20D.Gray&f=false

 

Этот лейтенант служил в конце ПМВ на батарее D 230-й бригады RFA(46-я Дивизия). Согласно источникам, батарея D создана только в 1916 году-теоретически у офицера начавшего службу в ней не должно было быть Звезды.

CCXXX (1/1st North Midland)

• On formation in April 1908 it was briefly known as the 3rd North Midland Brigade but became the 1st on 1 September 1908.
• The 1st North Midland Brigade RFA TF was based at the Artillery Drill Hall in Grimsby, Lincolnshire. It was comprised of a headquarters, the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Lincolnshire Batteries and the Brigade Ammunition Column. The 1st Battery was based at the  Mainridge Artillery Barracks in Boston and was sometimes referred to as the “Boston Artillery”and the 3rd Battery was at Louth. Each battery was armed with four obsolescent 15-pounder field guns.
• The brigade came under orders of the North Midland Division. Its movements and history can be traced on the page describing that division (link below).
• Re-armed with modern 18-pounder field guns 19-22 November 1915.
• A new “D” Battery was formed 19 April 1916.
• On 12-13 May 1916 the brigade was renamed to 230 Brigade RFA and the batteries given letters.
• The Brigade Ammunition Column left to merge into the Divisional Ammunition Column 22 May 1916.
• On 23 May 1916 “D” Battery left for 233 Brigade and became its “A” Battery. It was replaced by the arrival of that brigade’s “D” (Howitzer) Battery.
• On 28 August 1916 the divisional artillery was reorganised to create batteries of six field guns each. “A” Battery of 233 Brigade was broken up, with two-gun sections joining 230 Brigade’s “A” and “B” Batteries respectively. “C” Battery of 233 Brigade was also broken up, with a two-gun section joining 230 Brigade’s  “C” Battery.
• On 2 January 1917 “C” (Howitzer) Battery of 232 Brigade was broken up and a two-howitzer section joined 230 Brigade’s “D” (Howitzer) Battery.

[Алексей Дмитриевич]

Ещё в ПМВ участвовали:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C698855

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C698856

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1159686

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C698861

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C698858

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C698858

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1130015

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1162792

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1118342

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C698857

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1060438

[tanais]

Петр Сергеевич и Алексей Дмитриевич спасибо Вам за ваши ответы.